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Brock Lesnar in the UFC – What did it teach us?

Brock_Lesnar_April 2014 MMA UFC Megan Elice MeadowsSo this a post I want to draw attention too, purely for the fact that Brock Lesnar in the UFC was such a massive piece of history in the UFC organisation and MMA as a whole.

Because ever since Brock Lesnar first entered the UFC in 2008, there has been a rise in the number of professional wrestlers that have been trying MMA.

Now Brock Lesnar is a polarising figure in general, but nevertheless he has without question created a blueprint for what wrestlers can achieve in MMA.

In my eyes it was always inevitable that this would happen, because although organisations like WWE are created for entertainment purposes with scripted match outcomes – the fact remains that being a wrestler in organisations like the WWE is a gruelling schedule.

So do you think wrestlers can be good fighters? Well lets look closer at that –


Are WWE Wrestlers actually tough?

These guys work insane work schedules, sometimes there has been 365 days a year which is common in the industry. Also don’t forget professional wrestlers literally throw themselves around for a living, often having very bad landings with devastating injuries.Kurt_Angle MMA UFC WWE

So if someone ever tells you that WWE is all fake, well just pick them up and supplex them on a gym matt and see how they feel – think of WWE wrestlers as glorified stuntmen, and in case you didn’t know, being a Hollywood stuntman is an often life threatening thing to do, which takes immense bravery.

Long story short, you better believe that wrestlers are super tough, and don’t forget many famous WWE wrestlers in the past have come from legitimate high level wrestling backgrounds – like Kurt Angle for instance who won a Gold medal at the Olympics for freestyle wrestling.

Wrestling is truly a great base to have in MMA, which is proven by the many UFC champions of the past that have come from wrestling backgrounds.


Brock Lesnar in MMA

480px-Brock_Lesnar_Apr_2012_simononly UFC MMA WWENow although we are now seeing many more wrestlers try MMA, none have yet to eclipse the feats of Brock Lesnar in the UFC. He made his MMA debut in in K1 in 2007 against Min Soo Kim, winning easily in the first round due to submission (Punches).

Then he made his long awaited Debut in the UFC in 2008 against Frank Mir, and although Lesnar has a superior strength advantage as he had against all of his opponents, he was fighting a much more experienced opponent in Frank Mir, who won the fight in the first round via Kneebar.

However, he then went on to defeat Heath Herring via unanimous decision, and then defeated Randy Couture via TKO in round 2 to gain the UFC Heavyweight title. Then he retained his title by defeating Frank Mir via TKO in round 2, which was his first and only rematch.



He also dfeated Shane Carwin shortly after that, before eventually being dethroned by Cain Velasquez, and then taking another loss to Alistair Overeem.

He retired from MMA after this, going back to WWE, as he was struggling to deal with Diverticulitis and possibly teh overall strain of being a professional fighter.

Lesnar made a comeback in 2016 when he fought Mark Hunt, he won the fight via unanimous decision – however, this decision was overturned to a no Contest shortly after this, as Lesnar famously failed a drugs test before the fight, and Mark Hunt sought legal action about this, who is still battling for money from Brock Lesnar and the UFC.702px-F5_on_the_Undertaker_at WM30 Megan Elice Meadows

Allegations of rampant steroid abuse has followed Lesnar his whole career, and has undoubtedly tainted what hasΒ otherwise been a pretty amazing but brief MMA career. Many MMA and WWE fans alike have been calling for Brock to get back in the UFC, but in reality at 39 years old, and after all the negative media attention in recent years, it is unlikely that Brock Lesnar will fight in the UFC ever again.

UFC president has even said himself after the Mark Hunt fight, that he is not expecting another UFC comeback by Brock Lesnar – but will the UFC allow more wrestlers to compete in the octagon? You better believe that if the price is right, and the returns stack up then they definitely will.


What others Wrestlers compete in MMA?

542px-JoshBarnett BBPromo Michael DunnWell I want to start this section by speaking about the true MMA legends that began in professional wrestling – Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Josh Barnett, Bobb Sapp, Kazuki Sakuraba are legend’s in both pro-wrestling and MMA with highly successful careers in both.

Then Bobby Lashley, Alberto Del Rio, Dave Bautista and Sean O’Haire are some other notable names. But when we speak about recent wrestlers in the UFC, then many think of either Brock Lesnar or CM Punk.

CM Punk however, and most ex wrestlers currently in MMA are not likely to be champions in the UFC like Lesnar was, but who knows one day there may be another that comes along and storms into the UFC just like what Lesnar did.

There’s a lot of rumours about what WWE wrestlers will next try MMA, but personally I’m not going to throw out any speculation until someone signs on the dotted line with the UFC.


What sells is what we will see

Brock_Lesnar UFC MMA WWEIts a fact that in the fight game, especially now with WME-IMG owning the UFC, that the business model for match making has altered massively. Because bringing a certain “celebrity” element to the UFC has been building for some time, and there has already been talks of a legends/celebrity division.

So what did Brock Lesnar in the UFC teach us? It taught us to not doubt WWE wrestlers capabilities in MMA, it taught us that the UFC owners will bring in pro wrestlers if there are big pay-per-view sales to be made, and it also taught us that love him or hate him Brock Lesnar was a beast in MMA, regardless of steroid abuse.

So I hope you enjoyed this post, and if you have any comments, questions or smart ass remarks, then feel free to post some below and I will get back to you asap.

Oh by the way if you really like WWF/WWE belts for fun or memorabilia, then you should check out this UFC Belt

Stay tuned for more from the world of MMA right here at the MMAGateway.

 

Marley Dawkins

14 Comments

  1. Hey Marley,

    I was a huge WWF/WWE fan when I was younger.

    I loved watching guys like the Rock, Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle go at it.

    I hated when peopled said wresting was fake how can anyone being rock bottomed through a table be fake?

    I think you summed up the sport perfectly by calling them “glorified stuntman.”

    • Hi Mohamed,

      Yeah me too, up until about 13 when i first came across MMA, then my focus switched to that.

      But yeah exactly, sure its all scripted, but the heavy landings these guys take are serious, so yeah glorified stuntmen just about sums it up πŸ™‚

      You can also practice throws on this solid freestanding bag!

      Thanks for stopping by bro!

  2. Brock Lesnar was a COMPLETE beast. I loved him in wwe and mma. He just dominated the competition, and hate to see him retire. He really did start or made popular for wwe wrestlers to turn professional. People used to think wwe wrestlers couldn’t hang with professional fighter, but Brock proved them all wrong and changed the game. Great article, great read.

    • Hey Garrett, yeah doesn’t matter what people think of him, Brock has always been a beast, and like you say, he literally proved to the world that A WWE wrestler can really fight MMA and be a champion.

      Get to a UFC event in the future and I will get you a few beers πŸ™‚

      Glad you liked this article and thanks for your feedback!

  3. Haha, are WWE wrestlers tough? Better not let any of those guys know if you happened to doubt their toughness, you could be in for a rude awakening lol! Those guys are freaky big, Brock Lesnar is an absolute ripped beast!

    Goes to show their abilities outside of WWE too, with Kurt Angle winning a gold medal. Pretty crazy stuff, just a talented dude to say the least. Also impressive how Brock was able to dominate many fields outside of WWE, with a lot of action seen by him in the MMA field!

    • Hi Trevon, yes Wrestlers are definitely tough, anyone who thinks otherwise really is missing the point. Brock Lesnar was one of the toughest without question. Who knows maybe one-day there will be another UFC champ from WWE – I think if Kurt Angle competed in MMA in his prime he would have been a dominant force also.

      You can make Kurt Angle in the new UFC game if you want πŸ™‚

      Thanks for dropping by!

  4. I really like it the way you say, we should think of WWE wrestlers as glorified stuntmen.
    This is absolutely true.

    Meanwhile, WWE is obviously staged & it’s a big show business, by no means, the tricks those guys perform there are fake.
    They are every bit real, & dangerous. It’s also no secret that many of these guys end up getting seriously injured.

    But that’s all good – Like in any sport, part of the bargain is that you get wear & tear, as you keep progressing.
    You fix things up & keep moving forward.
    ..& the carry-over effect from WWE to MMA is real. All the basic combat-sport tricks of trade are there & much more.

    WWE guys are really tough, & Brock Lesnar is definitely a living example of that.

    • Hey Henry,

      Yes glorified stuntmen, and just like you say while WWE is obviously staged, career ending or even life threatening injuries have happened a lot in WWE, and teh wear and tear like any combat sports is insane.

      But yes progression pays off for the blood, sweat and tears that have to be put in, and im really hoping more WWE athletes start to cross over into MMA after Brocks amazing UFC run.

      Thanks for stopping by again, you always have interesting comments to make, and man have you seen my favourite sunglasses?

  5. Hi again Marley,
    I guess the powers that be are giving me a second chance to comment correctly on your site. It appears that this kind of site comment is different from site feedback. So I will give it my best shot.

    I understand your point in what Brocks success has taught us, there is no doubt about the clear message he sends about WWE wrestlers and that the owner of the UFC will bring in pro wrestlers when big money is concerned, but Why was it inevitable that he would create the blueprint for what wrestlers can achieve in the MMA? And, How does his inevitability to be a successful role model connect with a fight scripted outcome and the wrestlers in WWE having grueling schedules?

    You asked if wrestlers were actually tough and could they be good fighters. The answer for me is YES. with rigorous the schedules some of the keep and how hard they throw each other around, I don’t see it could be any other way.No one could perform like they do and not be fit even if they don’t always look like it.

    I have watched both wrestling and the MMA and despite the fact that it’s hard to watch these guys beat up on each other, listen to their boasting, and knowing from a personal point of view how much violence happens with some of these guys out of the ring they are talented, Its almost an art.

    Hope this is better Marley, if you can help me out further with guidance on site comments, I’d really appreciate it.

    Many Blessings to you,
    Susan

    P.S. My son just walked by and a took a peek over my shoulder and said, “Ya! Brock.

    • Hi Susan, Brock Lesnars career has shown what is possible for WWE athlete’s can achieve in MMA. Even though WWE is scripted the injuries and heavy schedule mean that being tough is a requirement for all pro wrestlers.

      But yeah in future just keep your comment relevant to the post without mentioning comments lol. Thanks for dropping by, your son is awesome by the way πŸ™‚

      And if he wants to start wrestling then get him to try these awesome shoes!

  6. Brock Lesnar definitely brought viewers to the UFC and he was actually a really good fighter. I know I tuned in whenever he was fighting. I think if these guys can’t compete, it will be apparent right away and their careers will be very short. Also, they are making good money in the WWE so if they switch they need to make sure they will get paid so they have to be good. πŸ™‚

    • Hi Shannon, yes your right Brock was a great fighter in the UFC, he really did all pro-wrestlers proud in a lot of ways. I also agree that a lot of wrestlers are used to big paychecks, so to join the UFC they need to be making big bucks, i know Brock sure did!

      You need big bucks to buy this as well. Worth the money though if your looking for top quality in a watch.

      Thanks for stopping by!

  7. OK, first thanks for your Post and very interesting site. I love watching fighting. But, can you clear something up for me? MMA is real, true hardcore fighting, right? Is it the cage fighting? I cant always remember the acrynomnys. Also, is wrestling fake? I remember Rowdy, Rowdy Piper and Hulk Hogan back in the day and went to several events. I would love to see a MMA fight. thanks for your awesome site and I will share with my friends who are interested as well. Matt B.

    • Hi Matty, yes MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts, and it is cage fighting under a sanctioned rule set yes. Wrestling is scripted, and some of the striking is fake, but heavy falls and throws they go through often cause serious injuries, so remember that even though its scripted wrestlers are like really tough glorified stuntmen.

      Remember you can always book yourself a ticket at the events section – UFC 212 is coming up next weekend, and there is still tickets left if you want πŸ™‚

      Thanks for your feedback!

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